by massachusetts standards. >> i'm shocked anybody was prosecuted. >> you're asking what he stands for, chris christie. and you're right, he didn't say all the things that he was going to do. >> anything. >> but doesn't he stand for pragmatism? doesn't he stand for a perception that actually maybe there is a movement towards a pragmatic new road, particularly for the republican party sunny just wanted to know from you and from all of you guys, in fact do governor races predict what's going to happen in congress next year, predict what's going to happen in the presidentials three years from now? >> they usually don't. but one of the things you're seeing that is washington is so dysfunctional there's a very good chance that the next president of the united states is going to be a governor. whether not somebody from the senate, i think to hillary's misfortune. it's going to be somebody who actually knows how to be an executive and get things done. [ overlapping speakers ] >> in the world of phony politics people are looking for authenticity. that's chris christie. but here's one big chall